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Guru Gobind Singh Ji put an end 2 the caste system but ppl find it hard 2 let go
wots ur caste?
do u find ppl look down on u 4 it?
wen it cums 2 marriage r u expected 2 marry sum1 of the same caste even tho ur religion is the same?????????????
Forgived.
02-02-2007, 22:11
I hate the Caste System!! It is soo important in our culture....ther are sum castes...'we have to look down on' and are forbidden to marry from *rollseyes* Its more like a political thing....'them against us'....'dont mess or get involved with them when it comes to marriage or business'. Its old and its stupid.
does ur castes mean nethin like in sikhism
jatts r farmers
ramgharias/ tharkans r woodworkers/ craftsmen
chumars r cleaners
Brown Sugar Baby
02-02-2007, 22:31
what caste r u nav?
am ramgharia
i dont follow the caste system
but i remember wen my cuzin went and married a chumar
the uproar it caused amongst the rest of the family was bad
Forgived.
02-02-2007, 23:04
does ur castes mean nethin like in sikhism
jatts r farmers
ramgharias/ tharkans r woodworkers/ craftsmen
chumars r cleaners
Have no idea wat our caste systems mean individually.....but we have Rajeh, choudhurys/Jatt, cant thing of any others.
I hate the caste thing as well.
im a tharkan
but my fam is cool with the whole caste system doesnt botter them
I don't even know my caste. My parents are not bothered with this. All I know is I am Sikh and proud.
Forgived.
03-02-2007, 01:33
Me mum always used to remind me that I shud always consider the caste of a guy, when it came to marriage. I ws like...okay. Lol
but wen u meet sum1 1st thing ur not gonna say is hi wots ur name and caste
My mum always told me to marry who you want, but make sure she has the same values as you to bring your kids up the way we bought you up..
Forgived.
03-02-2007, 01:36
but wen u meet sum1 1st thing ur not gonna say is hi wots ur name and caste
I know....imagine having to find out sumone isnt the right caste after uve fallen for them big time!
Forgived.
03-02-2007, 01:38
]']My mum always told me to marry who you want, but make sure she has the same values as you to bring your kids up the way we bought you up..
To Pakistanis...same values means ...same caste...? lol
No offence anyone.
4 most as long as the religion matches its cool
cos its the same religion u can adapt... not much 2 adapt but u kno wot i mean
You should make a survey/questionairre and give that to them to fill out on the first date. So you are sure this person is qualified to marry you.
Forgived.
03-02-2007, 01:41
I never knew how much importance Caste ws to some ppl....esp the older generation. I found out when my mate start going out with this guy and she told her parents about getting married to him...they wanted to know wat caste, he is. And apparantly he ws of a lower caste...they wer not happy. Not happy at all. Thats when I realised that caste defo exists in todays day and age. Its sad really. I cud understand if religions wer different, but castes....thats nuffing really. Oh well.
Forgived.
03-02-2007, 01:43
]']You should make a survey/questionairre and give that to them to fill out on the first date. So you are sure this person is qualified to marry you.
Thats enuff to scare anyone away....mentioning marriage on the first date!
yeh true, well for Sikhs, as Nav said, Guru Gobind Singh Ji ended the caste system, so i don't know why people still follow it, My family don't.
Forgived.
03-02-2007, 01:48
It used to bother me. Not any more.
Its still important for the older generation....it will generally fade out. Hopefully.
Maybe our kids wont have to deal with it
it is the older generation holdin on2 it
in the old days caste represented power... higher the caste more power and wealth.... times have changed now
i thought u was jatt!!
lol i swear ive told u many times im tharkan bananadanc
thought u went 2 bed!!!!
nah u aint eva told me
thought u went 2 bed!!!!
nah u aint eva told me
am watchin tv a movie
.Prizzle.
03-02-2007, 04:04
uff the cast system annoys me...
my parents say to me as long as your happy it doesnt matter
but a lot of the older generation always need to know what cast a person is if the subject of marraige arises...and how its not good for a girl to marry into a cast lower than her own....
but are we not all the same people
SweetesT@boo
03-02-2007, 18:47
Is there a caste that begins with P in sikhism?
Which caste is the strictest??
those ones with the really long paags dressed in all blue
nihang sikhs? they warriors!!!!!!
Confuzzled
03-02-2007, 22:38
Guru Gobind Singh Ji put an end 2 the caste system but ppl find it hard 2 let go
wots ur caste?
do u find ppl look down on u 4 it?
wen it cums 2 marriage r u expected 2 marry sum1 of the same caste even tho ur religion is the same?????????????
My caste = Tharkan
Nah i dont think ppl look dwn on me...but i hate it....coz wen it cums 2 marriage it takes the piss gettin married 2 sikh guys coz their parents and ours are all bout tha caste!!! it duz ma head in
im jatt my mum aint rele dat botherd but my nannie is she always says 2 me u can find ur own husband as long as he sikh jatt nice boi lol. but i dnt tink dey would mind 2 much if i wanted 2 marry diff caste jus wudnt b 2 hapy bou it xxxx
Random Bloke
04-02-2007, 20:36
im jatt and i must admit our jatt lot take things to extreme about castes lol
Baby Ash, further to your posts regarding caste, if you are muslim, there is no such thing as the caste system. Its religiously incorrect, it simply does not exist. It should be the same thing in Sikhism and Hinduism as well, its a tradition thats had its time.
Is it true that if your casts, ur not allowed to marry outside your casts?
Confuzzled
06-02-2007, 15:23
its not that ur not allowed 2 marry outside of castes....some familys would just like 4 eg. a jatt to marry a jatt.
i think its silly...
Oh, becuz dis hindu gyal last yr in col was lyk i aint allwoed 2 marry out of her own cast or summit dunno u knw
Forgived.
06-02-2007, 15:31
Baby Ash, further to your posts regarding caste, if you are muslim, there is no such thing as the caste system. Its religiously incorrect, it simply does not exist. It should be the same thing in Sikhism and Hinduism as well, its a tradition thats had its time.
Im not gna argue with that...but ppl tend to put culture before religion and thats wat most Pakistanis do. Most Pakistanis...and I say most....dont know much about ther religion anyways so they wudnt know. However....
Scholars have spoken about compatibility and equality in marriage. It is good to consider the compatibility of morals, manners, religiousness, age, education, physical looks, country of origin, race, ethnicity, family background, et cetera. These things make marriage more successful and permanent. The more the bride and groom are of equal status, the more suitable they are for each other. But these things are only as recommendations for marriage. They are common sense rules; they are not conditions for the marriage in Islam.
Maybe its not about caste, but society and the status u hold in society. So I think it is best to marry in your caste to avoid any problems....thats if ur family and society deem Caste as a major factor when it comes to marriage. And we know Pakistanis...majority do.
BhangraMan
06-02-2007, 15:39
The caste system has become null and void for the sheer fact that each and every one of us is living in this country. The caste system was used in most cultures to distinguish between statuses among people back home. The fact that nearly all our parents had to work there bollox off when they came to this country, regardless of caste, to give us a future here means that caste really has no bearing at all. For instance you could get a Jatt who drives round in a Ford Mondeo and a Chumar who's rolling in a Mercedes-Benz, it means absolutely nothing and so should not become a factor when choosing the person u want to spend the rest of your life with.
:D
Forgived.
06-02-2007, 15:41
^^^I agree totally...but its still ther!! It is... ,:
$exy_$cottish_AnGel
06-02-2007, 15:47
^^^I agree totally...but its still ther!! It is... ,:
yep i agree der the caste system is still around coz it does come up in sum rishtey.....:oh
Glad gujjiz aint lyk dat :D:D:D
BhangraMan
06-02-2007, 15:55
^^^ I agree with u lot and am not refuting that it isn't there but that's the reason I don't agree with it and my mum and dad are the same. Thing is I think we're prob the last generation where Caste is gonna play a major factor in relationships cos if u think about it our parents are the 'transitional' types - They came over here and made it, so they appreciate our way of thinking but still hold strong their beliefs from back home. We've been here all our life and so prob won't give caste a second thought. I can't speak for everyone tho
:D
I agree also... for our parents Culture and caste comes first!! weird hey?? they dont realise it but they are religious at the same time.. If i went to my nan and said im marrying a white non-muslim person she would flip... but then again in religion its allowed with a few guidelines!!
Confuzzled
06-02-2007, 16:01
Glad gujjiz aint lyk dat :D:D:D
Some gujjiz are....My boyfriends family aint bad...but his cousins family are
same wid my mate...patel's are ment to be the highest aint they? well shes expected to marry just a patel or sumin Insane
Is it true that if your casts, ur not allowed to marry outside your casts?
that aint true
think with castes its social status 2 the old generation
MizzyBone
06-02-2007, 17:33
Glad gujjiz aint lyk dat :D:D:D
Not being funny but out of all of the south Asians I think Guji's are probably the worse.
DJ B4VVY
06-02-2007, 17:34
Fuck castes man that's like racism
But yea Ridz you're not really supposed to marry out of castes but our generation ain't bothered about it, it's just our parents and their parents that are. But they're becoming more leniant on it now my parents said I can marry ot of caste woohoo! Now I just gotta find someone.
Why is it that when your parents say something like that, you can't find noone?! :(
gujis..... they got a system goin on 2
shahs look 2 marry shahs
patels with patels
Fuck castes man that's like racism
But yea Ridz you're not really supposed to marry out of castes but our generation ain't bothered about it, it's just our parents and their parents that are. But they're becoming more leniant on it now my parents said I can marry ot of caste woohoo! Now I just gotta find someone.
Why is it that when your parents say something like that, you can't find noone?! :(
bav that aint true
if we aint meant 2 follow castes systems how can u say that???
DJ B4VVY
06-02-2007, 17:38
Some gujjiz are....My boyfriends family aint bad...but his cousins family are
same wid my mate...patel's are ment to be the highest aint they? well shes expected to marry just a patel or sumin Insane
Patel's ain't the highest, Brahmins (Priests) are the highest, the lowest are the street sweepers (I can't remember what they call them but they're what Mahatma Gandhi called "The Untouchables")
DJ B4VVY
06-02-2007, 17:41
bav that aint true
if we aint meant 2 follow castes systems how can u say that???
What I meant was the older generation stick to that but our generation don't give a shit about castes, up until a few years ago my parents said I can only marry someone from our caste, I know Patel caste is a big one but there are different kinds of Patels and I could only marry that certain kind of Patel that we are, but now they aren't bothered coz me and my brother keep lecturing them about it and they said I can get married to any guy aslong as he's Hindu and Guji, so I can marry any caste.
Oi_Oi_SaVaLoY
08-02-2007, 01:19
a dnt belive in tha caste system.. but me parents do...
me dad wants me 2 marry a sikh jatt but me mum jus says make sure its a sikh...
a kno if a married sum1 of a difference caste me dad wudnt b happy but he wud cum round 2 it
Casts over here dont really mean anything because everyone is growin up doin different different things, its a big thing back home, cuz whateva cast ur born into thats what u will follow and become...
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