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Forgived.
02-02-2007, 21:48
Dargah Shariff of Hazrat Khwaja Muinuddin Chishti is indeed an ornament to the city of Ajmer. It is one of the holiest places of worship in India not only for the Muslims but also for the people of other faiths who hold the saint the high esteem and reverence. As mentioned previously. The Khwaja Saheb, as a ‘living spirit’ of peace and harmony, enjoys universal respect and devotion ever since he set his holy feet on the soil of Hindustan.
He has unquestionably been one of the greatest spiritual redeemers of human sufferings. To the faithful and afflicted souls invoking his blessing, he has ever been a never-failing source of moral strength and spiritual enlightenment. Apart from the common people, even the mighty kings of India, both Hindu and Muslim, have paid submissive homage to the great saint and have sought his miraculous aid to solve their problems. The precious buildings and various rich endowments dedicated to the Dargah of Khwaja Saheb are living memorials to and reminders of his continued patronage enjoyed by the people of India throughout the past 750 years.
The Dargah lies at the foot of the northern extremity of Taragarh hill. Its main attraction is the mausoleum containing the tomb of the saint which is the sanctum of the Dargah. Among its other prominent attractions which catch the eye of a visitor immediately he enters the Dargah, are the two mighty Buland Darwaza, which were built with the donations of Sultan Ghyasuddin Khilji of Mandoo who ruled Malwa from 1469 to 1500 A.D. The other Buland Darwaza in the north, which is now the main entrance of the Dargah, was built by H.E.H. Nisam Usman Ali Khan of Hyderabad Deccan in 1915 A.D. at a cost of Rs. 55,857/-. On the top of this gateway, there is the main Naqqar Khana (drum house) containing two pairs of huge naqqars (beating drums) which were presented by Emperor Akbar after his successful victory in a campaign of Bengal. They are sounded to the accompaniment of music played on Nafeeries and Shahnias at certain fixed hours of every day and night of the year by musicians permanently employed on the staff of the Dargah.
The Dargah includes many other attractive buildings, tombs, courtyards and Daalaans, some of which are exquisite specimens of the Moghul architecture and were erected during the Moghul period. Akbar was the first Moghul Emperor to visit the Dargah on foot when Ajmer came under his possession. He built the Akbari Masjid in the Dargah in 1571 A.d. which is a spacious mosque (140x140) feet. It was repaired by Nawab Ghafoor Ali of Danapur in 1901 A.D. One of its wings now accommodates the Moiniua Usmania Darul-Uloom, an Arabic and Persain School, for religious education which is run under the management of the Dargah
Forgived.
02-02-2007, 21:49
http://www.dargahajmer.com/v_photo.htm Check sum pics out here.
I loved it...loved it....loved it there!!
Ive been to a Dargah in mumbai, it was good but the SHIRK!! Terrible!!
Forgived.
02-02-2007, 21:55
Ive been to a Dargah in mumbai, it was good but the SHIRK!! Terrible!!
I know....u think that tying of the red thread on the wall kinda thing and making a dua is shirk? I did that... ?>
looks nice
dont remember wot we got up2 in mumbai... (prefer callin it bombay!)
was 2 out of it
sorry dont know about the red thing, as for the dua it depends. Asking him directly is shirk. Example 'Give me this...' etc. But if you ask him to make dua for you then its not shirk. Example 'Make dua for me so i can get this...' etc. Get it?
Forgived.
02-02-2007, 22:06
sorry dont know about the red thing, as for the dua it depends. Asking him directly is shirk. Example 'Give me this...' etc. But if you ask him to make dua for you then its not shirk. Example 'Make dua for me so i can get this...' etc. Get it?
Yeh I get ya. Thnx..
Forgived.
05-02-2007, 21:22
Aaaa Ajmer Sharif... *day dreaming*
Omg We wer hounded by people when we left.....it ws mad!:o
They wer after me dads money... :i He gave money to one person who NEEDED it....than we had about 20 ppl following us.... :oh
HussainU
10-02-2007, 14:06
yeh been here loadsa times.
its beautiful...
i love it there..
its not shirk to ask them to make dua for u...
we dont ask em directly...
we ask them to ask for us...
becoz we are no saints...
these people are higher ranking than us.. maybe if they make dua for us allah subhana watala may grant this dua...
its called asking in the WASILA of... "with the intercession of...."
that is not shirk...
baby do u eat the roses of da grave?? jus petals...??
yeh been here loadsa times.
its beautiful...
i love it there..
its not shirk to ask them to make dua for u...
we dont ask em directly...
we ask them to ask for us...
becoz we are no saints...
these people are higher ranking than us.. maybe if they make dua for us allah subhana watala may grant this dua...
its called asking in the WASILA of... "with the intercession of...."
that is not shirk...
baby do u eat the roses of da grave?? jus petals...??
Yep exactly but there are crazy people there.
Forgived.
10-02-2007, 20:02
yeh been here loadsa times.
its beautiful...
i love it there..
its not shirk to ask them to make dua for u...
we dont ask em directly...
we ask them to ask for us...
becoz we are no saints...
these people are higher ranking than us.. maybe if they make dua for us allah subhana watala may grant this dua...
its called asking in the WASILA of... "with the intercession of...."
that is not shirk...
baby do u eat the roses of da grave?? jus petals...??
Lol..they gave us petals from the grave after we gave them a chaadar (cloth sheet) to put over it....they told us to eat the petals...I felt if I didnt Ill be doomed :oh Is it wrong?
HussainU
10-02-2007, 23:45
Lol..they gave us petals from the grave after we gave them a chaadar (cloth sheet) to put over it....they told us to eat the petals...I felt if I didnt Ill be doomed :oh Is it wrong?
nop its not rong. .. ive eaten loads.. its good.
Forgived.
10-02-2007, 23:47
nop its not rong. .. ive eaten loads.. its good.
Lol...but thers no reason to it either. I just didnt wanna seem rude and not eat it. So I did :p
HussainU
11-02-2007, 00:04
the reasn is its good for u ...
Forgived.
11-02-2007, 00:09
the reasn is its good for u ...
Good for my skin?? :, Good..as in how??
Yea im with Guji its shirk. I went to Haji Ali wen i was young, too young to understand really. I wouldnt go to any of these places now...its a really deep rooted common problem in India and Pakistan tho.
Forgived.
11-02-2007, 02:37
Yea im with Guji its shirk. I went to Haji Ali wen i was young, too young to understand really. I wouldnt go to any of these places now...its a really deep rooted common problem in India and Pakistan tho.
All the shirk is bad, but I would still go to these places. U can always so no to these shirk things. Just a matter of not upsettin those who carry them out! Lol. They are still important places no matter how they are run etc. Very peaceful.
HussainU
11-02-2007, 02:48
can u tell me wats shirk about it please?
coz i dont see wats shirk in asking for wasila
Forgived.
11-02-2007, 03:02
Shirk happens in India and Pakistan at these places unknowingly.
This Shirk is believing or thinking that a person can give us profit or loss, victory or defeat, good or bad on their own; believing that a Ghairullah, be it a Prophet or a Vali (friend of Allah) can give us gain or loss or act without the power of Allah. Praying for the sake of Jannath (heaven) or fearing Jahannam (hell) or Riya (acting to satisfy Ghairullah) also come under this category of Shirk. And I did hear lots of people saying stuff like that at loads of Ziyaraths....its also minor stuff like...the red thread, tying it. What does it mean? I dont know, first I have heard of it.
Are u meant to bow to these tombs as well? Cus I sw plenty ppl do that in Ajmer Sharif...and many other Ziyaraths.
PS Whats wasilat?
Forgived.
11-02-2007, 03:08
Oh yeh...acting to satisfy the Ghairullah is what happens mostly. Like throwing petals, chaadars with Holy Words on, thaweez that has been prayed on, paying money at every service! (that happens alot!!)....etc....I dunno what Islam say about all that. But most these things are done to 'satisfy the Ghairullah' which is Shirk.
HussainU
11-02-2007, 03:10
wasilat is asking for with the intercession of...
if we ask allah swt for someting den say with the wasila of muhammed sallau alihi wasalam ... we asking our beloved prophet to intercede for us,
if you saying it is shirk to ask some1 to help is in a good way .. why go to doctors? allah has provided doctors to give us medicine for cures? if we can only ask allah directly why would there be doctors? why do u go there?
why did allah give the power of intercession to muhammed saw..??
muhammed saw has said "ask for intercession now and i will interceed for u on the day of judgment"
do u no ibn abdul wahab?
Forgived.
11-02-2007, 03:15
Yeh thats fine....but at these Ziyaraths, ppl do do Shirk. U can do what u have mentioned...asking for with the intercession of, thats all good. But the things I have mentioned happen alot and everyday and they are Shirk. U cant argue with that can ya... ? :p
PS Whats ibn abdul wahab
HussainU
11-02-2007, 03:29
holy words on a taweez isnt shirk...
its to protect u ... depending on wat its for
somepeoplr who get jinns.. have em to keep da jinn away.. its prayed stuff da jin dont like.. so it dont go near em etc.. depndin on wa its for..
asking a vali for gain isnt shirk i jus told u why in da intercession post.
ibn abdul wahab is some guy..
do u no ashraf ali thamvi?
Forgived.
11-02-2007, 03:34
holy words on a taweez isnt shirk...
its to protect u ... depending on wat its for
somepeoplr who get jinns.. have em to keep da jinn away.. its prayed stuff da jin dont like.. so it dont go near em etc.. depndin on wa its for..
asking a vali for gain isnt shirk i jus told u why in da intercession post.
ibn abdul wahab is some guy..
do u no ashraf ali thamvi?
I dont know any of em! ?> Who are these guys?
Lol...Im just saying peeps shudnt give anyone else the same importance as Allah. I dont know enuff about the subject...so best leave it ther! I dont know if what happens in these places is right or wrong.....I went along when I went ther.. :p
HussainU
11-02-2007, 03:39
da names ive given ignore them
there not good people...
Aaryana Afghan
11-02-2007, 05:27
Ajmer Sharif a beautiful place.hope i will go there in near future,inshAllah.
HussainU
11-02-2007, 11:16
Ajmer Sharif a beautiful place.hope i will go there in near future,inshAllah.
ameeen
i hope u can visit soon ... its ver y beautiful there
Look as said in Hussain asking for intercession is allowed.
But asking Directly is not allowed. and the people there do that a lot.
Bowing down is also Shirk.
HussainU
12-02-2007, 10:12
Look as said in Hussain asking for intercession is allowed.
But asking Directly is not allowed. and the people there do that a lot.
Bowing down is also Shirk.
well i dont no about people asking directly there.
i no wen i do dua i ask for something and say grant my dua wid the intercession of ....
or if am at one of these places you ask for help in getting ur dua granted...
well i dont no about people asking directly there.
i no wen i do dua i ask for something and say grant my dua wid the intercession of ....
or if am at one of these places you ask for help in getting ur dua granted...
ye thats all allowd but its obvious people there pray to the grave, prostating etc?
HussainU
12-02-2007, 12:14
i dint no this but alot of hindus sikhs also visit ajmer shareef.
at first i thought only muslims go becoz its a muslim grave.. and he converted thousans and thousands to islam...
he also stopped alot of black majic etc going on at the times..
people use to literally fyl on carpets and alsorrts..
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